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		<title>88.2% of statistics are made up on the spot</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Call me unreasonable, but I tend to take the view that if you quote statistics to back up your argument then you should at least have a basic understanding of what they mean&#8230;</p>
<p>I was leafing through the soon-to-be-lamented November&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me unreasonable, but I tend to take the view that if you quote statistics to back up your argument then you should at least have a basic understanding of what they mean&#8230;</p>
<div id="attachment_401" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 388px"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5in-3BmKtFI"><img class="size-full wp-image-401" title="statistics" src="http://www.sandlines.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Picture-2.png" alt="Picture 2" width="378" height="200" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Click to play the 1997 Guinness advert</p></div>
<p>I was leafing through the soon-to-be-lamented November issue of Revolution (specifically the Insider Guide to Digital Marketing) when I came across the following quote:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #ff9900;">&#8220;The DMA estimates that marketers gain $45.06 (£28.28) in ROI for every dollar they spend on email campaigns.&#8221;<br />
<em>Mike Hilts, president &amp; general manager, Yesmail</em></span></p>
<p>Now, speaking pedantically, this is factually correct. But so wrong.</p>
<p>This (frequently quoted) statistic is a ratio, that was converted into US dollar terms to help present the finding in meaningful terms to an American audience. So far so good. But why the half-conversion? If it&#8217;s $45.06 to $1, then it&#8217;s £45.06 to £1, right?</p>
<p>To be fair to Mike, he&#8217;s by no means the first to make this error &#8211; but surely as an industry it&#8217;s in our interest to get the facts right?</p>
<p>Unless, of course, Mike is saying that we&#8217;re only getting a little better than 60% of the return in the UK that our trans-Atlantic counterparts achieve? I thought not.</p>
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		<title>Probably the worst opt-out in the world</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I was once (several years ago) having a pint in a pub (I know, shocking news). A young lady approached me wearing a big black felt hat and asked me for my email address. Next thing I knew I was&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was once (several years ago) having a pint in a pub (I know, shocking news). A young lady approached me wearing a big black felt hat and asked me for my email address. Next thing I knew I was on the Guinness mailing list.</p>
<p>I then decided that I didn&#8217;t want to keep getting their emails. This happens, marketers, get over it.</p>
<p>What I saw is <a title="THIS IS SPAM" href="http://www.diageobrandsunsubscribe.co.uk/" target="_blank">probably the worst opt-out in the world</a>.</p>
<div id="attachment_152" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.diageobrandsunsubscribe.co.uk/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-152" title="Diageo opt-out" src="http://www.sandlines.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/tb-04-300x243.gif" alt="Who wants to fill THIS out to unsubscribe from an email blast?" width="300" height="243" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Who wants to fill THIS out to unsubscribe from an email blast?</p></div>
<p>It is a minefield of unnecessary information across a range of brands in the Diageo group. It is almost certainly against the rules set out in the UK under the wonderfully named PECR legislation (pronounced &#8216;pecker&#8217;). It is definitely against best practice.</p>
<p>Oh well. Yahoo! mail has a &#8216;This Is Spam&#8217; button. Just got hit again.</p>
<p>Come on, Diageo, get a grip!</p>
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